Forum

Pinochle 5.1.0 Upda...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Pinochle 5.1.0 Update Released

11 Posts
2 Users
0 Reactions
884 Views
Josh
 Josh
(@Josh-71)
Member Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 61
Topic starter  

Just released a new update for Android, version 5.1.0. Apple update will be coming soon. Added several new features in this release:

1. Updated Stats to include win/loss/abandoned percentages and added a new field called Winning Trend, which tracks the percentage of games won over the most recent 50 games.
2. Added a new Messages inbox to start receiving notifications. So far there are only a few instances that generate notifications such as friend requests or password changes, but this message box is a prerequisite to more changes planned to improve Friends features and Inviting / Scheduling private games.
3. Made the Select Table screen dynamic so that table settings can be changes in real time. This will allow us to experiment with different expert table restrictions to find the right parameters.
4. Implemented code to improve the way timeouts are handled to reduce errors.


   
Quote
Pass Smart
(@Pass-Smart-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 101
 

@Josh,
New stats features look good! We have one or two small issues though...

You have the "Abandoned Games" value being added in twice to your stats win/loss percentages.

For Example:
You know I have been checking my win percentage out ever since I joined the site. Also, I have asked several times for the Abandoned Games number be CORRECTLY adjusted to reflect "real" abandoned games by me and not ones that were caused by glitches. Along with that request I have always asked that the losses column be adjusted to reflect "real" losses incurred by me and me alone but not by way of glitches or server drops. Also, if I quit at my fault it already gives me a loss in the loss column while also giving a click in the abandoned column too. What we cannot have for correct stats percentages is that the losses for these types of games are being counted twice.

My true win percentage is actually 85.7% yet the site is currently showing 80%.

The way I have always figured it ... including before the creation of the "Abandoned Games" number and penalty system was instituted is as follows:
Partial set divided by whole set...
Or in other words...
My wins divided by my total games played.
Or in practical numbers as of 08/17/24 07:21PM CST: Wins 809 plus Losses 135 equals 944 Total.
809 wins divided by 944 totals games = 85.7%

The only way to get to the 80% shown for me is to add in another 69 games which is the abandoned games number being added twice yet those games already accounted for in total.

The way I can stand on my statements is that since I have been figuring my win percentage since the beginning of my site play here (and actually commented on at beginning of Abandoned Number feature's installation) I know it was always 86%+ but then started to get affected by the rash volume of glitch drops.

The other issue is that it is still really hard to see those numbers with the dark red and dark green against a black background. Instead of changing the number colors like I suggested before would it be easier to lighten up the background instead?

No matter what...
Good job and changes now on their way.
Thanks


   
ReplyQuote
Pass Smart
(@Pass-Smart-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 101
 

@Josh,
Small calculation error...

The "Abandoned Games" is a value that is ultimately being added in twice.

You know that I have always monitored my wind percentage and I have noted that on this forum. I have done this since the beginning of playing on this site even before the installation of the abandoned games feature. My wind percentage has always been right at 86%. Recently it just below 86% because of the sheer volume of glitch drops also noted in this form. The abandoned games number incorrectly reflects losses both in that number and in the loss column too.

Here online the stats are showing me at an 80% win ratio which is incorrect since I have never dipped below 85 and a half percent. The error of the abandoned games number being added in to the total games value is what's causing the win percentage value to be incorrect.

Also, I can only see those values here online. When going to the game site all those values are showing zero no matter what I try to do. It is almost like my total record has been wiped out

Lastly, the numbers for these values and now eventual percentages are still hard to read against that black background with the dark red and the dark green. Would it be easier to lighten up the background instead of the numbers?

No matter what a good job and thank you for the new features.


   
ReplyQuote
Pass Smart
(@Pass-Smart-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 101
 

@Josh,
Sorry for the double messages to you regarding the calculation error but yesterday when I tried to send the message all I received were WordPress errors saying that the message and the programs were down. Also, last night my records were showing zero for when loss rank and abandoned. I went to Play store and try to update again and I don't know if that's what corrected things for me or if this was an issue for everyone but things look more normal now. The colors are still very dark and I actually have to use a little pen flashlight to view the dark red and green plus my glasses.

Please consider my explanation and catch on this calculation issue because I know that the abandoned numbers are being counted twice. Here is another example of what I mean: in the past I have admitted that I have quit games and in my opinion for some good reasons and when I have done that I have received a loss for that along with receiving an uptick in the abandoned number. I have mentioned that in previous messages as well when asking you to adjust the glitches for me but not when I have quit games that I had fully admitted to. With that said right there should show that the abandoned numbers are being counted twice in the total.

Again, sorry for the double messages but last night all it showed was WordPress had crashed.
Good to see these stats have been added and looking forward to more.
Thanks,
M.O.B.


   
ReplyQuote
Pass Smart
(@Pass-Smart-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 101
 

Test


   
ReplyQuote
Pass Smart
(@Pass-Smart-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 101
 

@Josh
Test


   
ReplyQuote
Pass Smart
(@Pass-Smart-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 101
 

@josh
Please review the two messages just previous to this one. One message just has test in the body and the other one has @Josh test in the body.

The one with just test did not crash WordPress. The one with the ampersand and your name did crash WordPress and I am attaching a screenshot of what is shown after hitting the add reply button.


   
ReplyQuote
Josh
 Josh
(@Josh-71)
Member Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 61
Topic starter  

I don't think the abandoned is getting counted twice but it is being counted in the total. I suppose I could take it out and just show the percentage of completed games.


   
ReplyQuote
Josh
 Josh
(@Josh-71)
Member Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 61
Topic starter  

Oh, and yes will make a note to take a look at the font colors for next update.


   
ReplyQuote
Pass Smart
(@Pass-Smart-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 101
 

@Josh,
Hello Josh,
Yes that is what I meant but I worded it wrong. The numbers are actually games represented in the abandoned metric is also reflected in the total game count so when it was figured into the calculating of percentages that's what I meant by twice. I would have been more accurate to say those games were being counted twice within the calculation for the percentages.

Are these new player's stats only visible to that play when they go "online" to view their profile I wouldn't think many players even come over here let alone login to even know you did this fine work. I think most are oblivious to all your update and info blogs you post in the forum till we get more volume of dedicated players.

You have done a nice job on this...
What if you have it appear in the gamer area when you click on a player? As it is now we get to see their win/loss numbers so we are already part of the way there.

I do feel I have to be brutally honest with you as always and do point out the only slight risk of getting the stats to show when you click on a player in the waiting room or during a game. As I have been sympathetic to this following topic and have mentioned it a few times previously...we have many many many players with losing records (below 50%) and some severely. Since this may be currently a majority of the players within our current environment as the website changes & evolves in your opinion would these players:
A) Not care if people viewed their stats in you click on them?;Currently we can do it over here.
B);May get offended? Don't know what current feedback is regarding current ability to view over here.
C) Consciously or unconsciously see this as a motivational tool.

You could try it out in whole to see what the players think of it in whole... because, again, it's already over here. You could show parts of it like the "Trending" with a line statement maybe in orange or white text near the bottom stating something like;
"For A Complete View Of Stats - Go To Online Forum". That may do to things for you...
1) Drive more people to come over here and start to read, chat, post...you know... create an environment over here as they come to investigate more statistics. Then you could always expand the amount of metrics being calculated...Maybe offer "Daily Tips" on how to play better but only when they log in over here. May offer selling something but nothing cheesy...lol. I don't think I like this one since I've worked hard at my record but you could offer they to buy a "one-time cleansing" of their negative record I think that would be a purely voluntary way of generating revenue since it would be their choice to do it or not.

I haven't checked on this additional feature you added lately but I like that you can befriend or block someone now when you can simply click on their avatar head. Before you could only do those two at the end of a game so if you forgot to or clicked play again before taking care of business regarding player relations then you had to wait wait wait...

Well, hope I gave a few good ideas.
Please don't forget to answer my questions too regarding no stats in the game area??
Thanks,
M.O.B.
Bid To Win P
Pass Run P
and many others as I try to communicate ...lol


   
ReplyQuote
Pass Smart
(@Pass-Smart-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 101
 

@josh...
Sorry, again I utilize auto voice type primarily since I only have a phone to access this site and the game site. I see many typos, bad Grammer, and incorrect words I did not voice...lol ..but voiced something else. My apologies but you should be able to get my messages intent.
Thanks


   
ReplyQuote
Share:

Online Now

  • Tommie

    Rating 3800
  • Skw

    Rating 2973
  • Kroll

    Rating 3088
  • Tariqchill

    Rating 1776
  • Lucky

    Rating 395
  • Brian

    Rating 2617
  • Omar

    Rating 2293
  • Renee

    Rating 189
  • Playeralan O

    Rating 1070
  • Durham

    Rating 3157
  • Bolger

    Rating 6270
  • Mono

    Rating 2570
  • Philippe

    Rating 9475
  • Zoogod

    Rating 2368
  • Andrea

    Rating 1664
  • karl

    Rating 1630
  • martin

    Rating 1976
  • Annie

    Rating 1351
  • Doe

    Rating 2084
  • DrDeath

    Rating 2563
  • Fishface

    Rating 1882
  • Trev

    Rating 1643
  • rip

    Rating 1640
  • trolly

    Rating 1945
  • nurse

    Rating 3125
  • jr

    Rating 3398
  • MTG

    Rating 2958
  • jimmy

    Rating 1632
  • Maryvale

    Rating 2537
  • Jodie

    Rating 1931
  • tamara

    Rating 1939
  • Otto

    Rating 11117
  • Alu

    Rating 1469
  • Sonny

    Rating 1912
  • arnold

    Rating 1768
  • Mark

    Rating 10946
  • Bonnie

    Rating 2546
  • Storm

    Rating 2778
  • Suzie

    Rating 772
  • Moi

    Rating 3803
  • Chywy

    Rating 1606
  • Magic Mike

    Rating 7743
  • Junegem

    Rating 1116
  • Betimgood

    Rating 2869
  • Bev

    Rating 2346
  • Surferdude

    Rating 493
  • StillTraveler

    Rating 2639
  • luka

    Rating 2795
  • matt

    Rating 2894
  • win

    Rating 2811
  • reg

    Rating 1421
  • michael

    Rating 2381
  • Clyde

    Rating 1810
  • Hunter

    Rating 2967
  • Val

    Rating 7946
  • Hot Shot

    Rating 8937
  • ClarkBar

    Rating 2592
  • walt

    Rating 1970
  • Ron

    Rating 10884
  • ramsey

    Rating 2071
  • tami

    Rating 1758
  • Jay

    Rating 713
  • Ortega

    Rating 2365
  • Karen

    Rating 2856
  • Daenerys

    Rating 2964
  • D

    Rating 150
  • bryce

    Rating 2755
  • Decibel

    Rating 2136
  • derrick

    Rating 1951
  • Cindy

    Rating 541
  • Habman

    Rating 3457
  • Koda

    Rating 1856
  • Nooch

    Rating 3260
  • stephanie

    Rating 1954
  • Harvey

    Rating 1934
  • Bush

    Rating 1205
  • Dan

    Rating 1964
  • rebecca

    Rating 2985
  • megha

    Rating 1951
  • Kelly

    Rating 3637
  • Washington

    Rating 1572
  • Ed R

    Rating 2945
  • irma

    Rating 2801
  • lynn

    Rating 2512
  • Akimbo

    Rating 2595
  • JodyBro

    Rating 2521
  • jackie

    Rating 1352
  • Cgtwin

    Rating 1784
  • Virginia

    Rating 2858
  • Victor

    Rating 1811
  • spectr

    Rating 693
  • KristenG

    Rating 2655
  • RB

    Rating 2108
  • annie

    Rating 2504
  • Connor

    Rating 2093
  • Jay

    Rating 2702
  • Jim

    Rating 2739
  • snarf69

    Rating 2233
  • Phil

    Rating 2261
  • Playerjay

    Rating 2161
  • Jared

    Rating 2163
  • kismet

    Rating 2075
  • Betty Jo

    Rating 2283
  • Barnes

    Rating 1471
  • Zeb

    Rating 1106
  • Char

    Rating 1214
  • iris

    Rating 1875
  • Babak

    Rating 1316
  • felix

    Rating 2589
  • starkey

    Rating 2843
  • LizaMari

    Rating 2308
  • Terry

    Rating 2241
  • Plnochkler

    Rating 3681
  • Mike Sr

    Rating 336
  • Antonina

    Rating 2200
  • Trenton

    Rating 2620
  • craig

    Rating 2711
  • Cassandra

    Rating 999
  • Codo

    Rating 2407
  • Player

    Rating 276
  • emme

    Rating 1869
  • Nick

    Rating 2563
  • Freddy

    Rating 3671
  • Steven

    Rating 2009
  • ryan

    Rating 2894
  • Star

    Rating 1740
  • Jenn

    Rating 4510
  • jenna

    Rating 2984
  • Reyes

    Rating 2207
  • bud

    Rating 1334
  • Player

    Rating 589
  • dullboy

    Rating 2175
  • andy

    Rating 1466
  • Trent

    Rating 2221
  • LittlePrettyLiz

    Rating 2199
  • Karina

    Rating 2665
  • Clara

    Rating 2500
  • bob

    Rating 2627
  • BigE

    Rating 3166
  • Dominic

    Rating 1383
  • Sales

    Rating 812
  • Hasan

    Rating 1592
  • Sambo

    Rating 2111
  • ecker

    Rating 1375
  • Tom

    Rating 1351
  • Mary

    Rating 9116
  • tractor

    Rating 2024
  • Chi

    Rating 2059
  • cal

    Rating 2999
  • Anwar

    Rating 1505
  • Saris

    Rating 3010
  • ATrain

    Rating 2360
  • Clark

    Rating 1537
  • melody

    Rating 3182
  • snake

    Rating 2642
  • BeerNGuns

    Rating 1794
  • DanZ

    Rating 1555
  • SoldierBoy

    Rating 1954
  • danielle

    Rating 2894
  • Laslo

    Rating 2023
  • dwinkler

    Rating 1946
  • Mark

    Rating 2598
  • marley420

    Rating 1697
  • Frank

    Rating 2052
  • worm

    Rating 3243
  • elrond

    Rating 2195
  • Zack

    Rating 1906
  • Joe

    Rating 3177
  • Kami

    Rating 11500
  • Ernie

    Rating 40891
  • Buddylove

    Rating 2761
  • Kimmer

    Rating 587
  • Skunkle Hoec

    Rating 2900
  • Mona

    Rating 2460
  • Brady

    Rating 13927
  • Terrance

    Rating 3282
  • Ray

    Rating 1808
  • Gogetem

    Rating 1105
  • Evill

    Rating 1110

Today's Best Hand

  • Ernie

    Rating 40891
  • Joe

    Rating 16358
  • Dave

    Rating 15722
  • John

    Rating 14656
  • Brady

    Rating 13927
  • Player

    Rating 12513
  • Djs

    Rating 12482
  • Lenhoj

    Rating 12307
  • Kami

    Rating 11500
  • Otto

    Rating 11117