Forum

Pinochle 5.1.0 Upda...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Pinochle 5.1.0 Update Released

11 Posts
2 Users
0 Reactions
2,535 Views
Josh
 Josh
(@Josh-71)
Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 61
Topic starter  

Just released a new update for Android, version 5.1.0. Apple update will be coming soon. Added several new features in this release:

1. Updated Stats to include win/loss/abandoned percentages and added a new field called Winning Trend, which tracks the percentage of games won over the most recent 50 games.
2. Added a new Messages inbox to start receiving notifications. So far there are only a few instances that generate notifications such as friend requests or password changes, but this message box is a prerequisite to more changes planned to improve Friends features and Inviting / Scheduling private games.
3. Made the Select Table screen dynamic so that table settings can be changes in real time. This will allow us to experiment with different expert table restrictions to find the right parameters.
4. Implemented code to improve the way timeouts are handled to reduce errors.


   
Quote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh,
New stats features look good! We have one or two small issues though...

You have the "Abandoned Games" value being added in twice to your stats win/loss percentages.

For Example:
You know I have been checking my win percentage out ever since I joined the site. Also, I have asked several times for the Abandoned Games number be CORRECTLY adjusted to reflect "real" abandoned games by me and not ones that were caused by glitches. Along with that request I have always asked that the losses column be adjusted to reflect "real" losses incurred by me and me alone but not by way of glitches or server drops. Also, if I quit at my fault it already gives me a loss in the loss column while also giving a click in the abandoned column too. What we cannot have for correct stats percentages is that the losses for these types of games are being counted twice.

My true win percentage is actually 85.7% yet the site is currently showing 80%.

The way I have always figured it ... including before the creation of the "Abandoned Games" number and penalty system was instituted is as follows:
Partial set divided by whole set...
Or in other words...
My wins divided by my total games played.
Or in practical numbers as of 08/17/24 07:21PM CST: Wins 809 plus Losses 135 equals 944 Total.
809 wins divided by 944 totals games = 85.7%

The only way to get to the 80% shown for me is to add in another 69 games which is the abandoned games number being added twice yet those games already accounted for in total.

The way I can stand on my statements is that since I have been figuring my win percentage since the beginning of my site play here (and actually commented on at beginning of Abandoned Number feature's installation) I know it was always 86%+ but then started to get affected by the rash volume of glitch drops.

The other issue is that it is still really hard to see those numbers with the dark red and dark green against a black background. Instead of changing the number colors like I suggested before would it be easier to lighten up the background instead?

No matter what...
Good job and changes now on their way.
Thanks


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh,
Small calculation error...

The "Abandoned Games" is a value that is ultimately being added in twice.

You know that I have always monitored my wind percentage and I have noted that on this forum. I have done this since the beginning of playing on this site even before the installation of the abandoned games feature. My wind percentage has always been right at 86%. Recently it just below 86% because of the sheer volume of glitch drops also noted in this form. The abandoned games number incorrectly reflects losses both in that number and in the loss column too.

Here online the stats are showing me at an 80% win ratio which is incorrect since I have never dipped below 85 and a half percent. The error of the abandoned games number being added in to the total games value is what's causing the win percentage value to be incorrect.

Also, I can only see those values here online. When going to the game site all those values are showing zero no matter what I try to do. It is almost like my total record has been wiped out

Lastly, the numbers for these values and now eventual percentages are still hard to read against that black background with the dark red and the dark green. Would it be easier to lighten up the background instead of the numbers?

No matter what a good job and thank you for the new features.


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh,
Sorry for the double messages to you regarding the calculation error but yesterday when I tried to send the message all I received were WordPress errors saying that the message and the programs were down. Also, last night my records were showing zero for when loss rank and abandoned. I went to Play store and try to update again and I don't know if that's what corrected things for me or if this was an issue for everyone but things look more normal now. The colors are still very dark and I actually have to use a little pen flashlight to view the dark red and green plus my glasses.

Please consider my explanation and catch on this calculation issue because I know that the abandoned numbers are being counted twice. Here is another example of what I mean: in the past I have admitted that I have quit games and in my opinion for some good reasons and when I have done that I have received a loss for that along with receiving an uptick in the abandoned number. I have mentioned that in previous messages as well when asking you to adjust the glitches for me but not when I have quit games that I had fully admitted to. With that said right there should show that the abandoned numbers are being counted twice in the total.

Again, sorry for the double messages but last night all it showed was WordPress had crashed.
Good to see these stats have been added and looking forward to more.
Thanks,
M.O.B.


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

Test


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh
Test


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@josh
Please review the two messages just previous to this one. One message just has test in the body and the other one has @Josh test in the body.

The one with just test did not crash WordPress. The one with the ampersand and your name did crash WordPress and I am attaching a screenshot of what is shown after hitting the add reply button.


   
ReplyQuote
Josh
 Josh
(@Josh-71)
Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 61
Topic starter  

I don't think the abandoned is getting counted twice but it is being counted in the total. I suppose I could take it out and just show the percentage of completed games.


   
ReplyQuote
Josh
 Josh
(@Josh-71)
Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 61
Topic starter  

Oh, and yes will make a note to take a look at the font colors for next update.


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh,
Hello Josh,
Yes that is what I meant but I worded it wrong. The numbers are actually games represented in the abandoned metric is also reflected in the total game count so when it was figured into the calculating of percentages that's what I meant by twice. I would have been more accurate to say those games were being counted twice within the calculation for the percentages.

Are these new player's stats only visible to that play when they go "online" to view their profile I wouldn't think many players even come over here let alone login to even know you did this fine work. I think most are oblivious to all your update and info blogs you post in the forum till we get more volume of dedicated players.

You have done a nice job on this...
What if you have it appear in the gamer area when you click on a player? As it is now we get to see their win/loss numbers so we are already part of the way there.

I do feel I have to be brutally honest with you as always and do point out the only slight risk of getting the stats to show when you click on a player in the waiting room or during a game. As I have been sympathetic to this following topic and have mentioned it a few times previously...we have many many many players with losing records (below 50%) and some severely. Since this may be currently a majority of the players within our current environment as the website changes & evolves in your opinion would these players:
A) Not care if people viewed their stats in you click on them?;Currently we can do it over here.
B);May get offended? Don't know what current feedback is regarding current ability to view over here.
C) Consciously or unconsciously see this as a motivational tool.

You could try it out in whole to see what the players think of it in whole... because, again, it's already over here. You could show parts of it like the "Trending" with a line statement maybe in orange or white text near the bottom stating something like;
"For A Complete View Of Stats - Go To Online Forum". That may do to things for you...
1) Drive more people to come over here and start to read, chat, post...you know... create an environment over here as they come to investigate more statistics. Then you could always expand the amount of metrics being calculated...Maybe offer "Daily Tips" on how to play better but only when they log in over here. May offer selling something but nothing cheesy...lol. I don't think I like this one since I've worked hard at my record but you could offer they to buy a "one-time cleansing" of their negative record I think that would be a purely voluntary way of generating revenue since it would be their choice to do it or not.

I haven't checked on this additional feature you added lately but I like that you can befriend or block someone now when you can simply click on their avatar head. Before you could only do those two at the end of a game so if you forgot to or clicked play again before taking care of business regarding player relations then you had to wait wait wait...

Well, hope I gave a few good ideas.
Please don't forget to answer my questions too regarding no stats in the game area??
Thanks,
M.O.B.
Bid To Win P
Pass Run P
and many others as I try to communicate ...lol


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@josh...
Sorry, again I utilize auto voice type primarily since I only have a phone to access this site and the game site. I see many typos, bad Grammer, and incorrect words I did not voice...lol ..but voiced something else. My apologies but you should be able to get my messages intent.
Thanks


   
ReplyQuote
Share:

Online Now

  • Sadie

    Rating 3408
  • wots

    Rating 4021
  • BeerNGuns

    Rating 2943
  • Luci

    Rating 726
  • Owen

    Rating 2165
  • Alcatraz

    Rating 186
  • Frank

    Rating 2928
  • Jenn

    Rating 5837
  • tech

    Rating 2570
  • Libby

    Rating 4469
  • Juice

    Rating 625
  • Philippe

    Rating 16047
  • Kingkongdawn

    Rating 670
  • Jojo

    Rating 436
  • Tommie

    Rating 5592
  • Nate

    Rating 2235
  • marley420

    Rating 2832
  • Playerjay

    Rating 3251
  • Bid Hound

    Rating 6002
  • Gramgo

    Rating 2866
  • arnold

    Rating 2774
  • Pat

    Rating 943
  • snake

    Rating 3517
  • craig

    Rating 3527
  • Jay

    Rating 3803
  • Graybeard

    Rating 845
  • tami

    Rating 2237
  • Jim T

    Rating 7936
  • Babak

    Rating 1896
  • B A

    Rating 3969
  • Bob

    Rating 1281
  • Daenerys

    Rating 4146
  • win

    Rating 3828
  • rip

    Rating 2781
  • dwinkler

    Rating 2645
  • jackie

    Rating 2022
  • Eve

    Rating 14749
  • starkey

    Rating 3329
  • william

    Rating 2137
  • jenna

    Rating 4006
  • jr

    Rating 4669
  • Cutter

    Rating 11491
  • P E

    Rating 5131
  • Hot Shot

    Rating 11461
  • ecker

    Rating 2714
  • Decibel

    Rating 2967
  • Traceyad

    Rating 6235
  • Jim

    Rating 4244
  • thedon

    Rating 4372
  • Christopher

    Rating 0
  • Sir

    Rating 4040
  • Hunter

    Rating 4331
  • ramsey

    Rating 2956
  • Ernie

    Rating 54598
  • Deeds

    Rating 1479
  • sammy

    Rating 3107
  • carnell

    Rating 1906
  • burvan

    Rating 1730
  • Deanna

    Rating 2476
  • mrsmith

    Rating 2770
  • Leahanne

    Rating 3112
  • Julie

    Rating 5086
  • Ice Cold

    Rating 3974
  • Blondie

    Rating 6925
  • Drake

    Rating 3379
  • Player

    Rating 2857
  • David

    Rating 2728
  • doc

    Rating 2817
  • Durham

    Rating 4382
  • Moi

    Rating 5563
  • Choch

    Rating 2898
  • Deep

    Rating 3811
  • andy

    Rating 2540
  • Judd

    Rating 1436
  • Logan

    Rating 2821
  • maryann

    Rating 2932
  • locksmith

    Rating 1405
  • Chick

    Rating 5435
  • Brian

    Rating 3778
  • geralt

    Rating 2963
  • jasper

    Rating 3056
  • Matthew

    Rating 2853
  • Washington

    Rating 3760
  • Tam

    Rating 3027
  • Kj

    Rating 4232
  • eunice

    Rating 2819
  • Barb

    Rating 2560
  • South

    Rating 231
  • Steven

    Rating 2628
  • brady

    Rating 2195
  • dan

    Rating 3029
  • Skunkle Hoec

    Rating 3785
  • Trent

    Rating 2761
  • Payday

    Rating 2496
  • crypto

    Rating 2897
  • Tammy

    Rating 197
  • Edgar

    Rating 2559
  • arfe

    Rating 1575
  • twix

    Rating 1706
  • Player Mary

    Rating 5387
  • Player

    Rating 3556
  • walt

    Rating 2615
  • rizz

    Rating 1536
  • friar

    Rating 1536
  • judy

    Rating 2481
  • mike

    Rating 2917
  • Curdell

    Rating 2382
  • MTG

    Rating 4363
  • Grandma

    Rating 3554
  • Karen

    Rating 5248
  • bud

    Rating 1875
  • Stan

    Rating 1941
  • Joan

    Rating 2906
  • cliff

    Rating 1687
  • prince

    Rating 3249
  • bruno

    Rating 2934
  • Rosemarie

    Rating 2405
  • saddie

    Rating 1924
  • rednuts

    Rating 1986
  • pete

    Rating 2940
  • Sambo

    Rating 2945
  • Ronnie T

    Rating 656
  • todd

    Rating 2067
  • Zoogod

    Rating 3669
  • weichang

    Rating 240
  • Cuban

    Rating 2532
  • bruce

    Rating 3012
  • jenifer

    Rating 2465
  • Suz

    Rating 2984
  • jordan

    Rating 3356
  • Arlene

    Rating 2227
  • danchenko

    Rating 2129
  • hal

    Rating 899
  • E

    Rating 2494
  • Vinnie

    Rating 3081
  • donald

    Rating 2441
  • michael

    Rating 3257
  • Cyndib

    Rating 4820
  • Eileen

    Rating 3298
  • Elizabeth

    Rating 2304
  • slphilly

    Rating 2209
  • kurt

    Rating 3024
  • Phillips

    Rating 3204
  • daniel

    Rating 1201
  • blackjack

    Rating 1017
  • Val

    Rating 13328
  • Rlf

    Rating 648
  • Tamero

    Rating 1927
  • Los

    Rating 3349
  • steam

    Rating 3382
  • Cassandra

    Rating 1546
  • Julio

    Rating 2437
  • nan

    Rating 4648
  • Joni

    Rating 3141
  • Menace

    Rating 9069
  • Jedco

    Rating 2325
  • Karen

    Rating 1433
  • Llucksmine

    Rating 2848
  • ken

    Rating 578
  • Nell

    Rating 5419
  • Bev

    Rating 4103
  • Buddylove

    Rating 5642
  • Luis

    Rating 3889
  • Thill

    Rating 400
  • Brady

    Rating 20377
  • El Wayneo

    Rating 722
  • War

    Rating 58
  • Evill

    Rating 18962

Today's Best Hand

Suz

Double Deck Partners
Ace of DiamondsAce of SpadesAce of HeartsAce of ClubsAce of DiamondsAce of DiamondsTen of DiamondsTen of DiamondsKing of DiamondsKing of DiamondsQueen of DiamondsQueen of DiamondsJack of DiamondsJack of DiamondsQueen of SpadesQueen of Spades
  • Ernie

    Rating 54598
  • Lenhoj

    Rating 29378
  • Joe

    Rating 24840
  • Brady

    Rating 20377
  • John

    Rating 19899
  • Djs

    Rating 19407
  • Evill

    Rating 18962
  • Dave

    Rating 16490
  • Bubba

    Rating 16298
  • Philippe

    Rating 16047