Forum

Pinochle 5.1.0 Upda...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Pinochle 5.1.0 Update Released

11 Posts
2 Users
0 Reactions
2,246 Views
Josh
 Josh
(@Josh-71)
Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 61
Topic starter  

Just released a new update for Android, version 5.1.0. Apple update will be coming soon. Added several new features in this release:

1. Updated Stats to include win/loss/abandoned percentages and added a new field called Winning Trend, which tracks the percentage of games won over the most recent 50 games.
2. Added a new Messages inbox to start receiving notifications. So far there are only a few instances that generate notifications such as friend requests or password changes, but this message box is a prerequisite to more changes planned to improve Friends features and Inviting / Scheduling private games.
3. Made the Select Table screen dynamic so that table settings can be changes in real time. This will allow us to experiment with different expert table restrictions to find the right parameters.
4. Implemented code to improve the way timeouts are handled to reduce errors.


   
Quote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh,
New stats features look good! We have one or two small issues though...

You have the "Abandoned Games" value being added in twice to your stats win/loss percentages.

For Example:
You know I have been checking my win percentage out ever since I joined the site. Also, I have asked several times for the Abandoned Games number be CORRECTLY adjusted to reflect "real" abandoned games by me and not ones that were caused by glitches. Along with that request I have always asked that the losses column be adjusted to reflect "real" losses incurred by me and me alone but not by way of glitches or server drops. Also, if I quit at my fault it already gives me a loss in the loss column while also giving a click in the abandoned column too. What we cannot have for correct stats percentages is that the losses for these types of games are being counted twice.

My true win percentage is actually 85.7% yet the site is currently showing 80%.

The way I have always figured it ... including before the creation of the "Abandoned Games" number and penalty system was instituted is as follows:
Partial set divided by whole set...
Or in other words...
My wins divided by my total games played.
Or in practical numbers as of 08/17/24 07:21PM CST: Wins 809 plus Losses 135 equals 944 Total.
809 wins divided by 944 totals games = 85.7%

The only way to get to the 80% shown for me is to add in another 69 games which is the abandoned games number being added twice yet those games already accounted for in total.

The way I can stand on my statements is that since I have been figuring my win percentage since the beginning of my site play here (and actually commented on at beginning of Abandoned Number feature's installation) I know it was always 86%+ but then started to get affected by the rash volume of glitch drops.

The other issue is that it is still really hard to see those numbers with the dark red and dark green against a black background. Instead of changing the number colors like I suggested before would it be easier to lighten up the background instead?

No matter what...
Good job and changes now on their way.
Thanks


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh,
Small calculation error...

The "Abandoned Games" is a value that is ultimately being added in twice.

You know that I have always monitored my wind percentage and I have noted that on this forum. I have done this since the beginning of playing on this site even before the installation of the abandoned games feature. My wind percentage has always been right at 86%. Recently it just below 86% because of the sheer volume of glitch drops also noted in this form. The abandoned games number incorrectly reflects losses both in that number and in the loss column too.

Here online the stats are showing me at an 80% win ratio which is incorrect since I have never dipped below 85 and a half percent. The error of the abandoned games number being added in to the total games value is what's causing the win percentage value to be incorrect.

Also, I can only see those values here online. When going to the game site all those values are showing zero no matter what I try to do. It is almost like my total record has been wiped out

Lastly, the numbers for these values and now eventual percentages are still hard to read against that black background with the dark red and the dark green. Would it be easier to lighten up the background instead of the numbers?

No matter what a good job and thank you for the new features.


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh,
Sorry for the double messages to you regarding the calculation error but yesterday when I tried to send the message all I received were WordPress errors saying that the message and the programs were down. Also, last night my records were showing zero for when loss rank and abandoned. I went to Play store and try to update again and I don't know if that's what corrected things for me or if this was an issue for everyone but things look more normal now. The colors are still very dark and I actually have to use a little pen flashlight to view the dark red and green plus my glasses.

Please consider my explanation and catch on this calculation issue because I know that the abandoned numbers are being counted twice. Here is another example of what I mean: in the past I have admitted that I have quit games and in my opinion for some good reasons and when I have done that I have received a loss for that along with receiving an uptick in the abandoned number. I have mentioned that in previous messages as well when asking you to adjust the glitches for me but not when I have quit games that I had fully admitted to. With that said right there should show that the abandoned numbers are being counted twice in the total.

Again, sorry for the double messages but last night all it showed was WordPress had crashed.
Good to see these stats have been added and looking forward to more.
Thanks,
M.O.B.


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

Test


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh
Test


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@josh
Please review the two messages just previous to this one. One message just has test in the body and the other one has @Josh test in the body.

The one with just test did not crash WordPress. The one with the ampersand and your name did crash WordPress and I am attaching a screenshot of what is shown after hitting the add reply button.


   
ReplyQuote
Josh
 Josh
(@Josh-71)
Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 61
Topic starter  

I don't think the abandoned is getting counted twice but it is being counted in the total. I suppose I could take it out and just show the percentage of completed games.


   
ReplyQuote
Josh
 Josh
(@Josh-71)
Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 61
Topic starter  

Oh, and yes will make a note to take a look at the font colors for next update.


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@Josh,
Hello Josh,
Yes that is what I meant but I worded it wrong. The numbers are actually games represented in the abandoned metric is also reflected in the total game count so when it was figured into the calculating of percentages that's what I meant by twice. I would have been more accurate to say those games were being counted twice within the calculation for the percentages.

Are these new player's stats only visible to that play when they go "online" to view their profile I wouldn't think many players even come over here let alone login to even know you did this fine work. I think most are oblivious to all your update and info blogs you post in the forum till we get more volume of dedicated players.

You have done a nice job on this...
What if you have it appear in the gamer area when you click on a player? As it is now we get to see their win/loss numbers so we are already part of the way there.

I do feel I have to be brutally honest with you as always and do point out the only slight risk of getting the stats to show when you click on a player in the waiting room or during a game. As I have been sympathetic to this following topic and have mentioned it a few times previously...we have many many many players with losing records (below 50%) and some severely. Since this may be currently a majority of the players within our current environment as the website changes & evolves in your opinion would these players:
A) Not care if people viewed their stats in you click on them?;Currently we can do it over here.
B);May get offended? Don't know what current feedback is regarding current ability to view over here.
C) Consciously or unconsciously see this as a motivational tool.

You could try it out in whole to see what the players think of it in whole... because, again, it's already over here. You could show parts of it like the "Trending" with a line statement maybe in orange or white text near the bottom stating something like;
"For A Complete View Of Stats - Go To Online Forum". That may do to things for you...
1) Drive more people to come over here and start to read, chat, post...you know... create an environment over here as they come to investigate more statistics. Then you could always expand the amount of metrics being calculated...Maybe offer "Daily Tips" on how to play better but only when they log in over here. May offer selling something but nothing cheesy...lol. I don't think I like this one since I've worked hard at my record but you could offer they to buy a "one-time cleansing" of their negative record I think that would be a purely voluntary way of generating revenue since it would be their choice to do it or not.

I haven't checked on this additional feature you added lately but I like that you can befriend or block someone now when you can simply click on their avatar head. Before you could only do those two at the end of a game so if you forgot to or clicked play again before taking care of business regarding player relations then you had to wait wait wait...

Well, hope I gave a few good ideas.
Please don't forget to answer my questions too regarding no stats in the game area??
Thanks,
M.O.B.
Bid To Win P
Pass Run P
and many others as I try to communicate ...lol


   
ReplyQuote
Mike Ox Big
(@Mike-Ox-Big-1245)
Estimable Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 106
 

@josh...
Sorry, again I utilize auto voice type primarily since I only have a phone to access this site and the game site. I see many typos, bad Grammer, and incorrect words I did not voice...lol ..but voiced something else. My apologies but you should be able to get my messages intent.
Thanks


   
ReplyQuote
Share:

Online Now

  • Chuck

    Rating 658
  • Tmkh

    Rating 984
  • Noooooo

    Rating 400
  • Derangedan

    Rating 1595
  • Hunter

    Rating 3958
  • Antonina

    Rating 2682
  • Eileen

    Rating 2501
  • spectr

    Rating 1699
  • Philippe

    Rating 14120
  • E

    Rating 2466
  • Odayzoff

    Rating 184
  • wots

    Rating 3586
  • Twoooosss

    Rating 519
  • Ashley

    Rating 1615
  • william

    Rating 1806
  • Feedthebirds

    Rating 543
  • Ed R

    Rating 4062
  • Zoogod

    Rating 3228
  • megha

    Rating 2691
  • StillTraveler

    Rating 2913
  • ClarkBar

    Rating 3064
  • Chemlen

    Rating 2132
  • Carl

    Rating 3833
  • BeerNGuns

    Rating 2450
  • Mark

    Rating 13385
  • Sonny

    Rating 2308
  • Gary

    Rating 1518
  • Poteeter

    Rating 5173
  • Karen

    Rating 3511
  • JodyBro

    Rating 3496
  • ren

    Rating 641
  • marley420

    Rating 2568
  • Stark

    Rating 881
  • Mark

    Rating 3007
  • Scotty

    Rating 3654
  • reg

    Rating 2145
  • Streyski

    Rating 7100
  • marc

    Rating 2599
  • kellee

    Rating 1557
  • Mikeb

    Rating 1229
  • Suzy Q

    Rating 558
  • Snake

    Rating 14630
  • Brian

    Rating 3296
  • Durham

    Rating 3910
  • Ortega

    Rating 3015
  • Kroll

    Rating 3977
  • Chip

    Rating 4572
  • Shawn

    Rating 5817
  • jackie

    Rating 1610
  • Bear

    Rating 5506
  • bryce

    Rating 3467
  • Sir

    Rating 3539
  • Herself

    Rating 804
  • LittlePrettyLiz

    Rating 2562
  • Stlrogue

    Rating 1009
  • melody

    Rating 3683
  • mich

    Rating 2245
  • Player

    Rating 24
  • Kj

    Rating 3074
  • jawn

    Rating 840
  • KristenG

    Rating 3064
  • Berge

    Rating 2805
  • Payday

    Rating 2148
  • sas

    Rating 697
  • Shearer

    Rating 3554
  • Rahmel

    Rating 1630
  • fred

    Rating 1273
  • Dan

    Rating 2742
  • carnell

    Rating 1550
  • Boss

    Rating 5021
  • Cjh

    Rating 3437
  • Jodie

    Rating 2524
  • Kellumenatee

    Rating 4011
  • Big Tim

    Rating 1751
  • Deb

    Rating 14
  • sammy

    Rating 2774
  • voyager

    Rating 171
  • karl

    Rating 2193
  • Joe

    Rating 22280
  • Trent

    Rating 2595
  • Takao

    Rating 2844
  • Matthew

    Rating 2651
  • Clyde

    Rating 2212
  • thebrain

    Rating 2969
  • jimmy

    Rating 2219
  • SpecialMom

    Rating 2350
  • Trenton

    Rating 3100
  • annie

    Rating 3272
  • tamara

    Rating 2262
  • Jim

    Rating 3781
  • matt

    Rating 3665
  • sandra

    Rating 2552
  • win

    Rating 3488
  • Gina

    Rating 2052
  • Dave

    Rating 1723
  • Perra

    Rating 387
  • Nick

    Rating 3144
  • Dwigt

    Rating 3096
  • ATrain

    Rating 2536
  • Connor

    Rating 3037
  • Jeau

    Rating 2152
  • Skw

    Rating 3623
  • gordy

    Rating 289
  • Doe

    Rating 4122
  • swoop

    Rating 1376
  • Bonnie

    Rating 3263
  • Decibel

    Rating 2495
  • Frank

    Rating 2674
  • MTG

    Rating 3809
  • Crater

    Rating 2040
  • Dennis

    Rating 307
  • JM

    Rating 14003
  • Ballsac

    Rating 297
  • prince

    Rating 2885
  • walt

    Rating 2488
  • derrick

    Rating 2355
  • Saris

    Rating 3741
  • bob

    Rating 3425
  • Daenerys

    Rating 3718
  • Sambo

    Rating 2771
  • Codo

    Rating 3174
  • ecker

    Rating 2186
  • jenna

    Rating 3605
  • Lala

    Rating 1967
  • nan

    Rating 3964
  • Jared

    Rating 2737
  • nurse

    Rating 3864
  • thedon

    Rating 4005
  • Reyes

    Rating 2757
  • Drake

    Rating 3092
  • jr

    Rating 4136
  • starkey

    Rating 3113
  • BigE

    Rating 4152
  • dan

    Rating 2884
  • palmer

    Rating 3600
  • Mono

    Rating 3208
  • Granny Dee

    Rating 2272
  • irma

    Rating 3637
  • G Màn

    Rating 6751
  • ozone

    Rating 2865
  • Laslo

    Rating 2561
  • gibson

    Rating 3166
  • Lucy

    Rating 2979
  • Jay

    Rating 3525
  • Deniz

    Rating 3632
  • rebecca

    Rating 3680
  • andy

    Rating 2162
  • Clark

    Rating 1547
  • trolly

    Rating 2755
  • U Got Lucky

    Rating 11067
  • deb

    Rating 3400
  • Player

    Rating 1922
  • tami

    Rating 2237
  • tech

    Rating 2311
  • Chioma

    Rating 2944
  • Owen

    Rating 1987
  • chet

    Rating 746
  • Hasan

    Rating 1894
  • Babak

    Rating 1802
  • quatto

    Rating 3430
  • paulie

    Rating 867
  • dwinkler

    Rating 2276
  • shwam

    Rating 3188
  • Pj

    Rating 2304
  • DrDeath

    Rating 3410
  • rip

    Rating 2340
  • The Gobbs

    Rating 7039
  • Bush

    Rating 1798
  • craig

    Rating 3261
  • luka

    Rating 3247
  • danielle

    Rating 3661
  • Melodee

    Rating 3060
  • brock

    Rating 3683
  • Zack

    Rating 2779
  • Betimgood

    Rating 5184
  • Tommie

    Rating 5119
  • Grandma

    Rating 3226
  • Traceyad

    Rating 5635
  • Llucksmine

    Rating 1273
  • Lenhoj

    Rating 24097
  • Betty Jo

    Rating 3442
  • Orsi

    Rating 3478
  • Evill

    Rating 11936

Today's Best Hand

Marvin

Double Deck Partners
Ace of SpadesAce of SpadesTen of SpadesTen of SpadesKing of SpadesKing of SpadesQueen of SpadesQueen of SpadesQueen of SpadesJack of SpadesJack of SpadesJack of HeartsJack of ClubsKing of DiamondsQueen of DiamondsJack of DiamondsJack of DiamondsJack of Diamonds
  • Ernie

    Rating 49537
  • Lenhoj

    Rating 24097
  • Joe

    Rating 22280
  • John

    Rating 18231
  • Brady

    Rating 17721
  • Djs

    Rating 17225
  • Dave

    Rating 16490
  • Snake

    Rating 14630
  • Player

    Rating 14420
  • Philippe

    Rating 14120