@Elrond,
We were just in a game together as partners and the damn thing dropped us and crashed. At least that's how it looked on my side that crashed the home game for all of us. If you get this message please let me know if that game ended for all of us or just for me. I'm going to attach a screenshot of the message I got so you know I didn't quit on you. You are a good player and we play well together so I hope to see you as my partner in more games.
Thanks,
Mike Ox Big

@tommy ,
We were just partners in a game and the game crashed. I will attach a screenshot of what came up for me regarding the crash. I hope you get this message in your registered email for this game site because I wanted to let you know that it is not me quitting and this is getting frustrating. We had a good game going for both teams because neither one of them were pulling away on points and both were climbing slowly although you and I did do a good job setting the other team one time. Again, I hope this message finds you and you right back.

Good luck and good cards.
M.O.B.

@Daenerys,
I hope you get this message in your registered email for this game. I just wanted to let you know I did not quit the game we were just in as partners. I was quite happy that we were partners since that doesn't happen too often and we were always having to play against each other. I know we would have won that game but the damn app dropped us as usual. If you get this message please let me know if it dropped you as well. I am attaching a screenshot of the last thing I saw where the game is even rotating the cars 90° counterclockwise when it crashed. If you remember in that game when it crashed I wasn't throwing that suit and I should have been the last card throwing since the player to the left of me actually let off for that book.

Anyway, I was enjoying being your partner and I hope that happens again so make sure that you have me on your friends list.
Thanks,
Mike Ox Big

@Reyes ,
It is 1 :15 AM CST in the morning and we just got done winning a game as partners but if I have my way prefer not to be your partner anymore. In fact, I am thinking strongly of blocking you from being my partner. I don't want to but here is the reason why.

You do not play as a teammate when it comes to passing the cards and building meld. I think your win/loss record reflects this too. You are right there and being a pretty darn good player but for some reason you think you need to hold on to the Trump cards in your secondary hand keeping them away from your partner who won the bid and has the primary hand. And I can see that you are doing this with that thought in mind ahead of time with the meld that you have counted in intent to keep in your hand no matter what. Twice I called for Spades and you kept a part of the four cards needed for a double pinochle worth 30 points so instead we both got four points. One hand we almost got set.

You think You are doing a fair trade-off with your partner when they have the primary hand that you give them a couple of aces and hold on to as many as five Trump cards! This is absolutely unacceptable! Don't you realize that if you gave a full spread, a variety, one of each, of the suit that your partner calls in the primary hand that there is a great chance that there may be a double family run for 150 points meld? Your partner should not have to fight for meld because you want to play independently.

I am sure that you have noticed that when I pass you cards I am trying to build meld in your hand with the selection of cards that I pass back. I do that every single hand and every single game for every single partner. Some of the meld that you did have in your hand I did help create but the majority of the time you already had meld that you intended to keep before your four cards were ever passed over to me.

Again, you would be a much better player if you play as a teammate and get with the program regarding passing cards that make sense to accomplish the goal of making the primary hand the winner both in meld and trick points. Like I said that your record shows you are just right there on the edge of being a darn good player and I can see you got the skills but not the concept of partnership.

Hope to play as your partner in the future under better circumstances.

Sincerely just trying to help.
Mike Ox Big

@Mike Ox Big I understand your frustration as well. It makes nooooo sense to me when i have called trump of hearts why they send me a pinochle. OMG or send me back aces in any suit really.

Apologies to Snake, Green and Mark for getting booted out of the game and replaced by Marvin

@Jenifer,
We were winning partners I just a little bit ago. Maybe half an hour ago. Thank you for helping get the win but I wanted to point out a couple of things regarding your pinochle card play. You would do much better if you would pass the Trump cards in your hand to your partner that one the bid! Several times I saw where you kept cards in your hand so you could keep the meld you were dealt. That's not how this works. I saw one time were you kept the Queen of Spades so you could keep your four points of a pinochle yet I was looking for a second Queen so I could get a double pinochle for 30 points! I saw where you kept the Ace of Spades on that same round along with some other Aces instead of sending me some Aces since I was the primary hand so I could have power. Another time I needed an ace to make a family run yet you kept it in your hand. We never lost a bid but we could have because of the way you held on to cards. Lastly, you have the basics to make yourself a good player and turn that record around the opposite way. Be an active partner and pass those trump cards or whats next best. Also, bid more often when you have a promising hand. Every hand isnt going to be a blockbuster and you saw where I made the bid when we barely had any meld at all. One time we only had 7 or 9 pts I think and no aces in the trump suit yet we made it.

Pass those trump cards!

Take care, good luck, have fun.
Mike Ox Big.

@boomer,
We just won as partners but are you sure you knew you were on my team?...lol Why don't you pass me all the trump cards or the most effective meld trump cards?

Twice I called for Spades as trump and you sent aces trying to make 4-of-a-kind Aces for 10 points. You kept 2 queens of soades that you felt made up good meld in your "SECONDARY" hand that could have matched up with my jacks of diamonds for not only a double pino (30 pts) but a triple which I think is 45 points total. Net loss was -35 pts for you keeping meld.

You did this "meld keeping" mistake every hand we won trump!!! Why? Your job as the secondary hand is to help build up the primary hand and secure as much meld as possible against the awarded bid before we start tossing cards. You need to do this while also helping minimize the trash cards in the primary hand by not sending any junk simply because YOU think you need to keep some cheap meld in your hand.

Many of my previous partners will tell you that I help create meld in the secondary hand when possible so dont worry about keeping trump cards or significantly important other cards in your hand!! Pass them...
And pass a spread of the trump suit when possible too!! (A-10-K-Q-J)

@swoop
@Annie-189
(Annie, this is the forum area I mentioned in reply to your other post. Check out all my suggestions to all these players. I dont think they ever got them, though)

@swoop, we just played double deck as partners on the beginner table and one pretty easily but we could have done even better and I wanted to politely make a suggestion or two. It appears by your record you may be either new to this website or new to pinochle so hopefully you won't be offended by my constructive criticism. When you win a bid that's considered the primary hand and your partner has the secondary hand. If you have the primary hand then you want to build the Lions share of the Meld for the team and then try to pass some cards that might build some meld in the secondary hand of your partner. If you want the bid and call Trump as Spades or diamonds then obviously you want to hold on to pinochle cards and the secondary hand partner should be sending you those types of cards. But if you call Trump is hearts or clubs then there is absolutely no reason to be holding on to a pinochle for a whopping Four Points! You are supposed to be cleaning up your hand with passing cards to your partner so why hold on to junk cards that after the Four Points of meld are worthless? Twice during our game you held onto a simple pinochle but could have sent it to me to have a double for 30 points! Once it was during my turn that we crashed and burned and went down and I sure could have used that 30 points of meld in the beginning and the other time was when you won the bid but I believe your Trump suit was hearts yet you held a pinochle and I had one so we lost a 30-point double. Lastly, I'm a pretty aggressive bidder but I can make all kinds of hands that I'm dealt work and make the bid especially if I have a partner that sends good cards. I noticed that you did every hand as well against your partner too. It's not always best for partners to bid against each other unless they really do have a good hand and want to really win that bid because all we are doing is driving up the points for the opposing team and doing it against ourselves. But all in all I think you did really well and I think you can turn around that record especially if you work with your partner regarding meld production. Remember, if you have the primary hand you can also try to build meld in your partner's hand with the past especially if your hand looks like it's a bust but you can do something creative in your partner's secondary hand like building four of a kind or a marriage in each suit by luck.

Thank,
M.O.B.

A double run beats double pinochle and people hold meld that would give you a couple hundred points to pass a pinochle when that would only give you 90 with all parts. They will also hold kings and queens in meld to give themselves kings or queens around! Everyone should learn the scoring before they can play expert level.

@Annie-189
I totally agree with you. Did you get a chance to read what I write these partners? I'm trying to be nice and give them some good experience info they could use to help them play better.

Sad thing too is that Josh does have a lot of info here for people to learn. The tutorials are a great spot. Maybe we get @Josh to make an entrance check-off quiz for each profile that players have to pass to play the "Expert" tables. The quiz would simply test their knowledge of meld points and logic...nothing long and scary but to see if they have a clue and/or suggest to het a clue before moving up.

@Josh, what do you think? Annie and I arent the only ones wishing the partners understood that the "team meld" is so much more i.portant (and potentially larger) than their selfish individual meld attempts.

Some thought,
M.O.B.

@Dàenerys
I am glad to see the system is matching us up as partners again! I don't know why but for a little while there we were opponents after being Partners practically every time we were on the same table.. LOL. We just won pretty convincingly about 15 minutes ago so great job partner! Just wanted to let you know and Hope system contacts your registered email for this game. Hope to see you again soon as my partner.
Thanks,
MikeOxBig (M.O.B.)

@Danielle
I just quit the game we were in as partners after one round!! The second round I won bid again and call for diamo ds as trump suit. Even with changing name gamer name to "Pass Meld P" to blatantly tell people like you to pass the meld in the called trump suit and QUIT HOLDING ON TO IT...!!! Instead you hold on to a simple pinochle for 4 points and I think you had a 4 of kind queens for 6 points. You sent me NO QUEENS of spades. I have the primary hand. Why would you keep from building pinocle in the primary hand that is calling trump of either diamonds or spades?

I had three marriages in the other suits and was hoping you had the queen of spades which would have given me a marriage in all four suits for a total of 24 points meld.
4 kings = 8pts
4 queens = 6 pts
3 regular marriages = 6 pts (3×2pts each)
1 trump marriage = 4 pts.
24 total instead of your 10!!!! And 4 of that q0 would still occur in my hand as a pino.

I ended up getting 37 pts meld plus whatever nonsense you had and I would definitely make my bid but I cant play with renegade NON-partner play like yours so I quit.

I will never play as your partner again. I think you should learn from this and maybe you will see why playing as a single in a partnership setting got you the loss record you have...

"Blocked"!

@maryann ,
We just won as partners about 5-10 minutes ago. It was a close exciting and fun game until that player "linhoj" got angry I guess that he busted the 2nd to last hand so he decided to run the timer down on every single turn of his...

Hey, I just want to thank you for helping mr / us out of a jam when I bid 85 but my meld failed to appear! I DID have two sets of 4-of-a-kind kings for I think it's 88 points but the darn bid timer is still too short and the automatic passer thing swiped four cards out with one of them being one of the 8 kings needed for my double 4-of-a-kind "kings".I was floored...!!! My possible total hand meld went from near 100 to in the 30s or 40s...lol. So along with your meld we had something in the mid 50s and still needing approx 30+ table points but I'm not seeing it in my hand...hahaha. Well, somewhere during the play of the hand you took charge and cleaned house for awhile...!!!..LOL. Thank you.

Lastly, I'm sure you will agree that they had the cards the whole game and we had to make do with creating what we could out of nothing.

@Linhoj ,
We were all enjoying a very close game which can be very fun. I know it can be very frustrating to go bust on your bid especially at the end of the game...kind of takes the wind right out of the sails. But I am sure you noticed that Maryann and I most often tried to pick the positive praising prases you can chose at g he end of each of your team's hands. The 2 times your team went bust neither of us picked anything to say which is often the best choice. With that said that we showed good sportsmanship I have to point out that it was very unfair and frustrating that you purposely ran the timer out all the way each time it was your turn. Frustrating but that was your intent I'm guessing. Not nice.

@Josh ,
The timer during bidding and passing cards is still too short. These are critical steps and are not frequent events so this is really neither an area where players can waste a bunch of time or that we can shorten the overall experience. As you may have read above the short card passing time compromised my hand. Please lengthen the allotted time for the card passing. Its not going to hurt anything.

The area we could save time is the interval given for each player to take their turn once the hands get going. This is EXTREMELY noticeable when we have a player purposely dragging out their turn each time to either be mean or vindictive or think that is some kind of strategy.

Also, when it becomes chronic that they are doing it...is there a way to program catching it for maybe 5 turns in a row and they get a pop-up dialog box stating they are about to get booted? And it would need to catch that I don't think they run it down to 1 and then game autoplays like picking the card to proceed... I say that because sometimes it isn't exactly uniform increments of time that they run down or that they pick a card the computer would not have picked so you know they are sitting there playing finally somewhere between the 5...to ..1 countdown.

Lastly, I know we are only allowed 12 characters in our name bar but could you expand choices? Currently you can only use letters and to capitalize it needs a space. No numbers or special characters are allowed either.

You may have noticed I have tried to spark a little common sense in the players that may be playing ...say...their own rules or maybe not fully understanding what to pass.
You may have see me as: "Pass Meld P"
It would be better as: "PassMeldKeepJunk" which is 12 characters in a row with a few capitalized in-line but currently you wont allow that.
How about getting them to stop passing pinochle to the primary hand but the trump called is clubs or hearts? Drives me up a wall!!! My name could be:
"SendPinoOnlyAt♤◇"
"PassAllMeld"
"PassA 10 KQJ"
"PsDblRun=150"

@michael,
We just won as partners very convincingly I might add...lol.

You, Sir, know how to pass cards...!!! Excellent job partner. Please add me to your "Friends" list and let's play again!

I don't know how many times I have commented aboutbthe benefits of passing a variety of thevtrump suit instead of your partner packing you in with all their 10s or Queens while they have a 4-card spread they could havevsent to make a 150 point Double Family Run instead...!!!!!
Or what if there if one of us gets stuck with the bid and we need just one or two cards of the trump suit to make the Family. Send a spread...!!!...just like they would do in Single Deck...!!!...but for some reason lose this simple strategy for Double Deck.

AS USUAL...I hope this email reaches your registered email on your profile.
Lately I feel like the guy sending out messages in a bottle from the deserted island @Josh....lol... since either we don't know or can't find out why they are not getting these emails. Would go long way toward fostering continued traffic.

Thanks for the good play, Michael.
M.O.B. (MikeOxBig)
Dnt Hld Meld.